Maybe we should keep a running total of the number of people that are interested so we can generate more excitement as we get closer.
I am surprised that it has been so difficult to generate interest. I wonder if we should follow the 'Field of Dreams' model: "If you build it, they they will come." (Is it 'Pool of Dreams'?)
Is it time to go door-to-door to distribute fliers? Of the current 50 who are interested, you might get some volunteers.
Great idea. Not everyone knows about the pool.
I have been surprised as well that more people have not come forward. I received a congratulatory email from weebly that in the first week of the website being up, we had 98 views! And yet, no emails... Maybe people are afraid I won't leave them alone once they send an email - which is a valid concern if they don't know me - and not many in all of Pinebrook do. :-P
Anyway, I've requested a link to this website be sent to all HOA member emails, and I have requested the link be posted to the Pinebrook facebook page - hoping that wll generate more interest. If those don't work... perhaps it is time to go door-to-door. I could email those who want to help with the effort - if we're all spread out enough, if each of us does our own section of neighborhood, it might not be too tough a job.
And I love the Pool of Dreams idea! How about "If we build it, kids will swim!" :-P
Thanks so much for your interest & suggestions. I will keep you posted.
I forgot to mention. The splash pad is I think a waste of money. We should also put a bar inside the clubhouse that can be rented out for private parties.
What could be great about this is that once we get a solid group of "investors" together, we can sit down & discuss what we do and do not want, & possibly make some additions that could encourage more families to participate. We're slowly getting more attention & more names - so that's a good thing.
WOW - over 200 views just today! So far we have about 50 names of interested parties - please email me if you're interested in the opportunity! And spread the word (& link to the website) to friends & neighbors - getting the word out has been the most difficult part of this endeavor. Thanks, everybody! :-)
We are new to Pinebrook and excited about a pool/fitness center in the area. However we are childless so we have a different emphasis. Will the pool be open to lap swimming year round? Outdoor pool? What are you thinking the hours for lap swimming would be.
It sounds like a lot of marketing emphasis is going to the families of Pinebrook. I'm sure there are couples like us in Pinebrook who would like a fitness lap pool. May try that for marketing as well.
The brochure mentions the pool being year-round, but gives no specific details about hours, how it would be run, etc. - and right now the brochure is all the information I have. My goal with this is to get enough people together that we can restart the project - then we can hopefully make it what members want.
Thanks for your interest!
Well, thanks to the latest HOA newsletter, we are up to 61 officially interested parties in Pinebrook, and another seven from the Jeremy area! We will be viewing and discussing the original plans in early November, and I will send out an update to those for whom I have emails - and I will try to post something on this site as well. Thanks for your interest, everyone, and keep spreading the word! The more potential members we can interest, the better!
I'm not clear on the scope of this project. 'Seven initially-interested parties from Jeremy'? They're not in the Pinebrook Master Association. Are they relevant to (available to participate in) this project? If so, how wide is the net of potential members? Could impact the experience significantly. Probably good to know.
This week is the first I have heard of this so I wonder how many other people have not even heard about it. I wonder if you were to do face book or some kind of other posts. When do you expect to start this project? When are fees and dues expected to be paid and who will be managing the funds?
Maybe this has all been discussed in previous posts. I would love to learn more about this venture and what we can do to move along this project. Thanks!
I am sure quite a few people don't know a lot about it; I have tried posting flyers in the mail houses, a facebook page (which was not terribly effective), information at the HOA picnic... but we have had the most success with the mentions in the HOA newsletter. When I brought up the pool at the last big HOA meeting, I was given the old brochures & basically told that it had been put on hold indefinitely, until it was determined that there was sufficient interest to restart the process - hence my efforts to resurrect interest in the project. In early November a few of us will meet with the fellow who has the original plans; after that meeting, I will have a better idea of how far they had previously gotten in the planning of it, as well as what we will need to move forward. So watch for an update early to mid-November; we hope to have more direction then. Thanks for your interest!
What a colossal waste- especially when Basin Rec might be enlarging the aquatic center. Why don't you think about a disc golf course and maybe some pickle ball courts for less money and more usage.
Thank you for your input. In case it has not been clear, this would be a private equity membership for those who choose to join, so no one has to be a part of it if they don't find it worthwhile. Just FYI, the HOA is in the process of completing the Pinebrook pickleball/basketball court project (located mid-Pinebrook), and WIllow Creek now has pickleball courts as well. If Basin Rec does enlarge the aquatic center, that could have an impact on our project, but at this point there are many households in our area who feel this would be a benefit to our neighborhood, so we would like to explore the possibility further.
In the most of the information circulating now the approximate cost per family have been discussed in terms of decreasing with more families - i.e., $7500 per family with 200 members, $5000 with 300 families etc.. However the brochure states the facilities will accommodate up to 250 family memberships....While we are all for lowering the cost pre family, what is the plan with how many memberships will actually be allowed? We would like to be part of this venture but not if it will be an overly crowded facility that we won't be able to enjoy. I think a number cap needs to be discussed and published.
We have a few committees that are currently working on costs, rules, etc., so that we can effectively and accurately give people more information about this opportunity. We are meeting this weekend to discuss everything; I will definitely bring up the possibility of overcrowding with the higher cap, as this is a concern for me as well. Thanks for your interest & comments, and I will email a summary after Sunday's meeting.
I highly recommend making the pool 25yds. Many communities build pools that are smaller, and then regret it later. This opens the opportunity for a community summer swim team and masters swim workouts, something people in our neighborhood will support. Just my 2-cents. :)
Yes, we have talked about increasing the size, but the space we have is a bit limited due to existing pipes, etc. so I'm not sure we can make it bigger. Thanks for your interest & input!
I have concerns over this pool project and its use of HOA land without adequate consideration being paid to the HOA for the use of the land. Board members owe a fiduciary responsibility to us as HOA members. To provide a select group with access to HOA property does not seem fair to all members. And, while I think a pool is a great idea, what happens when there are problems and the equity members are tapped out or have moved on. What type of bonding will they put in place to ensure this does not just become an eyesore when everyone's kids have grown up and they are no longer interested in the poo?. Who is responsible if there is a drowning? Who is going to monitor it for trespassers and vandals? It should available and supported by the entire HOA or the project should be abandoned. I've seen too many similar ideas fall into disrepair and dispute once the original stakeholders move on.
You have brought up some interesting points. Perhaps a bit more explanation is in order here... The land was set aside by the Master Association quite a while ago, specifically for the purpose of having a pool and recreation center. Since it was not included in the original CC&Rs, we cannot require every household to join in the venture, since that would affect everyone in the Master Association's HOA fees. I sincerely doubt this will become an abandoned eyesore; the recreation center alone will undoubtedly be well used as it will be available to all Master Association members. The rest of your concerns I believe are addressed in the drafts of rules, regulations, bylaws, etc. but thank you for bringing them to our attention.
Julie, thank you for your quick response. I really don't understand how land can just be "set aside" with no responsibility. It's use may have been specified by the Master Association, but someone has to be responsible for taxes, maintenance, insurance, etc. I am assuming that someone is PMA. Also, we can't let our enthusiasm for the pool cloud our vision. I have seen many multi million dollar projects (golf courses in particular) abandoned after many years of successful operations, especially in a down economy. Most people who get married doubt their marriage will end in divorce. So, what I would hope is that there is some type of bond required to be posted so that PMA members won't be left holding the bag if the project does fall on hard times. Let's call it a pool prenup.
Julie Nirula, mom & pool advocate :-)